Dennis Leigh – Civil Elegies – which goes: “And best of all is finding a
Gavin Says:
February 25th, 2010 at 6:56 am
In case anyone’s still on tenterhooks – the title’s a reference to a slogan Alasdair Gray puts on most of his books “Work as if you lived in the early days of a better nation”, which is itself a reference to a poem by Dennis Leigh – Civil Elegies – which goes: “And best of all is finding a place to be/in the early days of a better civilization.”
I demand my brownie points.
February 25th, 2010 at 6:56 am
In case anyone’s still on tenterhooks – the title’s a reference to a slogan Alasdair Gray puts on most of his books “Work as if you lived in the early days of a better nation”, which is itself a reference to a poem by Dennis Leigh – Civil Elegies – which goes: “And best of all is finding a place to be/in the early days of a better civilization.”
I demand my brownie points.
posted by dan at 6:49 AM
3 Comments:
Firstly what a tragic story all round
But now to the grit... In this day of political correctness gone to extreme, I thank you for the invaluable and balanced insight you offer with regards to the suicide of Phoebe Prince. Now days it's P.C. to 'never blame the victim' and to only persecute the 'bullies', but it's political correctness gone mad, it's insane to put a bandaid over the injury or take an asprin for an illness without looking into the symptoms and the cause. UNmetaphorically speaking, IT IS likely that pheobe, due to dysfunctions in her past, placed herself in high risk situations, I say this because I'm a 'survivor' (NOT a victim) of past sexual abuse, for years I was placing myself in high risk situations and even provoking verbal and physical attacks because living as a victim was the only way of living I knew, and strangely, what becomes familiar, feels strangely, yet falsely 'safe'. I used my sexual promiscuity and warped ideologies of sex to manipulate people, subconsciously seeking revenge on both males and females alike, my sexual abuse happened as a child, but much of the bullying, harrasment, and even a rape in later years, COULD have been prevented had I had some insight into why I was behaving the way that I was. So to put it bluntly, all of these do gooders who say that the victim is faultless, are in fact doing more harm than good, a 'victim' needs to understand their behaviours that are putting them at risk, if they are to modify them and eventually quit playing the eternal role of the victim. So as I'm speaking from experience, and because I can now step outside of myself and see myself as I once was, I have a gut feeling that Pheobe was a very disturbed teenager, and I'd place bets that she's had some kind of sexual abuse go down in her past, it will be interesting to see what comes of this case to say the least... All of that being said, in NO WAY to I believe that Phoebe deserved what she got or condone the bullying she received, I only think it's tragic that those close to her weren't honest with her about the way she may have been behaving and sought professional help for her. I don't know you Dan, but I thank you for opening people's eyes and inciting discussion into this matter, it really is about time the bleeding hearts woke up and faced reality. quit treating the symptoms, and start looking into the CAUSE... All of this from an abuse survivor who has been fortunate enough to live long enough to tell the story as it really is, it's just so heartbreaking and tragic that phoebe couldn't, may she now R.I.P
You said "Dan I don't know you...", well, now you know me and i know you, thanks for posting here. It is an invaluable part of the story and I will spread this around via my contact list so that other people can start to see what else there is to think about.
Thank you, Jennifer, for a very heartfelt comment post. I am keeping this in my files. And now you know me, and I know you. Write anytime, and again, thanks for having the heart and taking the time to write. I am doing all this for you! And Phoebe's departed angel spirit, too.
SIGh
dan
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Jennifer, i believe you but listen to what some posters here think of what you wrote. SIGH
A reader of Jennifer's post above tells me, in all candor, that she thinks Jennifer is a plant from the defense lawyer team. REALLY:
She wrote:
"Danny, Read her post...Thank you, ....now that i did read it...It looks like it was authored by one of the defense lawyers. They don't have a name attached nor do they have a purpose to writing it other than justifying poor choices and trying to sway the opinions of people; he/she deflects from the fact a child is now dead because some sociopaths wanted to destroy her and many grownups were neglectful in stopping them...It's like justifying a mugging, if the victim wasn't so well such a vctim...then that mugger would not of been so inclined to bang them over the head and steal from him!''
[danny - OUCH: PEOPLE DO NOT EVEN BELIEVE REAL VICTIMS OF SEX ABUSE! WHATS WRONG WITH AMERICA THESE DAYS?]
my friend adds, when i told her Jennifer *is real and NOT a defense plant, she writes:
''I'm just naturally analytical (it's made me very successful as a SPED teacher) and more recently Ihave become a conspiracy theorist... the USA apathetically watches our MSM slither around presenting the reporters opinions instead of stone cold facts and worse has dumbed down the news to the point where Woods, Lohan Bullock and O'Donnell make it to the headlines and little pesky things like we're in a war in two different countries and our government is pillaging our country dem or rep is placed on the backburner...I guess u know this living in the UK , u have "The Mirror"...
..."As for Jennifer, she/he is proposing that Phoebe was sexually abused and as a result of that was promiscuous with really nothing to back up the claim; the advantage that a person has in reading it, is that it will bolster the defense team for the 2 men accused of statutory rape...I personally am not drawing a conclusion without empirical evidence... "
JENNIFER, maybe you can add to this?
-- db
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